The ADUG mailing lists: adug-members@adug.org.au A discussion list adug-info@adug.org.au A low volume announcement list adug-members@adug.org.au The ADUG electronic mailing list is a forum for all members to share information, and is the medium by which upcoming events and matters of general interest are notified to all ADUG members. If you become an ADUG member you will be automatically subscribed to the list when you join the group. We would prefer that you stayed in the loop, but membership of the list is optional and you are welcome to remove yourself at any time by following the instructions below. Full use of the mailing list is currently restricted to paid up members of ADUG and specially invited guests, but visitors are welcome to lurk, especially potential new members who are curious about the group. But if you aren't a member and subscribe to the list then before long you can expect to be asked to join. Please note: Subscribing to the list does not automatically make you an ADUG member. If you wish to join ADUG please follow this link. Subscribe to the mailing list now: Your email address: Click here to unsubscribe from the list, or to update your email address. Please note that until further notice if you are an ADUG member you will need to update the members database independently. It is in your interests to do this since it enables us to email you with notices from time to time, and also allows other members to contact you. Be sure to turn off any automatic signatures generated by your mailer or alternatively follow these commands with: stop on a line by itself. When you e-mail the list address members@adug.org.au your message will be forwarded to all other subscribed members. The list server will automatically prefix the subject line with "ADUG" so that recipients can easily tell which messages are from the list. List policy and etiquette The ADUG mailing list is not moderated so this means that we rely on all list members to follow a few simple rules to ensure that it is an effective and welcome tool for all members to use. Please note that the ADUG list master has absolute discretion to add or remove people from the list at any time and is not obliged to notify those who have been removed. If you have any questions about list policy, please address them to listmaster@adug.org.au 1 Aim of the list The aim of this mailing list is to facilitate on-going communication between all members of the ADUG. This is an appropriate forum if you need help with Delphi or if you have any suggestions or issues to raise. Limited forms of advertising are permitted. Please see the advertising guidelines below. 2 Lurkers This list is maintained by the ADUG for the benefit of Delphi programmers. If you are a Delphi programmer at any level you are welcome to lurk, and to post. We leave it up to you to consider supporting us by joining.. 3 Appropriate subject lines Please use a subject line for every message you post, and please ensure that it is appropriate. The aim of the subject line should be to allow those people who might not be interested in your message to decide not to read it. Blank subject lines and non-descriptive subject lines like "Help me" are very tedious and all members are encouraged to ignore such posts. Another silly subject line is "Off topic" - it's better to describe the topic clearly and allow the reader to decide. 4 Attachments Attachments are discouraged and any attachment that may contain a virus is strictly forbidden. This includes executables and MS Office documents. 5 Large messages The list server automatically limits messages to 8000 characters. This is a deliberate policy to discourage posting of binaries and other large files or messages. Some list members still use a dial up line and it wastes time waiting for large messages to download. If a large item is of general interest then it is preferable to just post a message about where it can be found. Alternatively you can invite requests, and send it directly to those who want it. 6 Observe the rights of others Please ensure that you have the right to post material. Simply acknowledging copyright does not give you the right to post something that is copyright. Please observe other people's privacy and do not give out contact details without their permission, even if they are members of this list. Please be careful not to give offence, and particularly do not defame anybody, regardless of whether they are list members or otherwise. 7 Text format Messages should always be in plain text. Not all list members have mailers that can read HTML. Plain text also makes it easier to set up search facilities on the mailing list archives. Please try to avoid very long lines. Not all mailers fold them and they can make a post very hard to read. 8 Advertising Some forms of advertising is welcome as long as it is appropriate to the group. This would products and services that would be of particular interest to Australian Delphi users. ADUG members are permitted to post job ads to the list, but outside agencies are asked to refrain from doing so. The ADUG is in the process of setting up a separate facility for job ads to be posted by non-members. If you are unsure whether your advertising is appropriate please check with the ADUG list master at listmaster@adug.org.au. Advertisers should especially take care to ensure that the subject line of their message is appropriate and descriptive. It should make clear what is being advertised, and if it is location specific then the location should be made clear. Remember that list members come from all over the country. 10 Check your mailer The list server sets the Reply-To field of each message to try to ensure that replies are posted back to the list. Unfortunately some mailers ignore this field and send the reply direct to the sender. So please check that the recipient is members@adug.org.au when you send a reply that is intended for all to see. If this doesn't happen you may wish to consider updating your mailer program. 11 Replies direct to sender The list server sets the Reply-to header to ensure that replies go back to the list. There are however some messages for which it is preferable for replies to go directly to the sender. Advertised products and services would fall into this category. Originators of these messages should clearly indicate that responses should be made direct to them and not to the list and provide an appropriate contact address. 12 Auto-responders If you use an "out of office" notification facility or other type of auto-responder please unsubscribe yourself temporarily from the list while it is active. It's also a good idea to configure your auto-responder to reply only once to each sender. If you see an auto-responder message in an endless loop on the list please refrain from posting to the list as this will only compound the problem. 13 Message Trimming Please make sure you trim the messages before you reply. If you require certain parts of the old message refer to it by quoting the original message. If you don't refer to the old message strip it entirely from your message body. In particular make sure that other list members' Unsubscribe/Options-links get deleted before you hit the send button. We do have an online archive available and don't want an archive of the entire discussion in each reply. For example a trimmed reply message could look like this: Hello Joe, please find my comments below. Joe wrote: >Question part A My reply on question part A. Joe also wrote: >Question part B. My reply on question part B. Cheers,   MyName [Part C & D have been deleted as I did not have any comments on them.] List features 1 Message prefixing The list server will automatically prefix the subject line with "ADUG" or "Re: ADUG" so that recipients can easily tell which messages are from the list. 2 Time fixing The Date-time header of every message is set to the list server time rather than the time that was set by the originating mailer. This ensures that when the receiving mailer sorts the messages by date-time they will appear in the order in which they were distributed to the list. 3 Message size limit Message sizes are limited to 8000 bytes, including attachments. This ensures that the list can be quickly accessed even with a dial in connection, and also helps to keep trojan horses like HAPPY99.EXE off the list. 4 Confirmation request override Messages that request a response when the message is read are automatically modified to suppress this request. This prevents the reader's mailer from generating a response back to the list. adug-info@adug.org.au This is a low-volume announcement style list for people that only want to receive notices of monthly meeetings, special events and administration issues. Any postings to this list will be cross-posted to the members list, so there is no need to be on both lists. If you would like to subscribe to the info list, enter your address and press subscribe. Your email address: A confirmation email will be sent to the supplied address. You must reply to that email in order to join the list. Subsequently, you will receive a welcome email with administration details for the list. Disclaimers The ADUG and its officers accept no responsibility for information or other material that is posted on these lists. Users of these lists must be accept that content of each message is solely the reponsibility of the poster of the message, and the use of the content is solely the responsibility of the recipient. The ADUG and its officers can accept no liability for consequential damages that may arise due to use of information or attachments that are posted to these lists, or for misuse of the lists. If you do not accept these conditions please unsubscribe from the list, or request to be unsubscribed by contacting listmaster@adug.org.au

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